the new scatter from RoJ - Guild Wars Forums

drunk n angry · Jul 07, 2009, 02:49 AM // 02:49

hi all this is my first thread here but i got a question and i hope i put it in the right place.

Anet "fixed" RoJ so that hero AI and monster AI is supposed to now scatter from the effects of this skill. I just recently got into doing JQ (Jade Quarry) and i noticed that the shrine npc's dont scatter from these effects.

which leads me to my question> Why would they "fix" a skill in pve and not major pvp such as JQ?

if they are going to fix anything it should be an overall fix imo. if anyone knows why they didnt fix the npc's please pass that along, and if anyone knows how to get this to anet plz do so cuz it is very irritating when you get a group of mostly monks with roj and there is no stopping that crud.

Dont Nerf The Perma · Jul 07, 2009, 03:15 AM // 03:15

I think NPCs don't scatter because they are supposed to stay and guard the shrine. I've seen eles cast AoE on shrines and they don't seem to scatter from that.

IronSheik · Jul 07, 2009, 04:18 AM // 04:18

The JQ NPCs actually do scatter...about 50% of the time, but they do.

TheodenKing · Jul 07, 2009, 04:18 AM // 04:18

What they did was make the skill operate as elemental aoe, consistent with most ele skills. (ROJ does fire damage and causes burning each second of it's duration).

Shrine NPCs don't scatter from any aoe spells. They are paid to give up their lives to stop punks from capturing their shrines, except of course, for shrine monks, who are easily distracted by friendly minions in need of bandages. In that case, they will abandon their posts and pursue in hopes of saving the minions from their ailments.

Shayne Hawke · Jul 07, 2009, 04:28 AM // 04:28

Don't know what game you play, but the NPCs in my Guild Wars run after being hit by RoJ.

silavor · Jul 07, 2009, 04:51 AM // 04:51

The only NPC that doesn't run from RoJ is Master Togo, which makes Vizunah Square even more retarded.

drunk n angry · Jul 07, 2009, 08:44 AM // 08:44

and ty guys for the answers on this i do get it... but really why not change that as well. if they are not liking the way that RoJ is being OVERUSED and seeing how it is over powered why would they not make the change in pvp as well with the shrines.... just dont get it.

miskav · Jul 07, 2009, 08:52 AM // 08:52

They do scatter.

silavor · Jul 07, 2009, 11:02 AM // 11:02

Back on topic, yes, aNet should fix the scatter for RoJ of all AI, not just HM PvE AI.

Dont Nerf The Perma · Jul 07, 2009, 11:29 AM // 11:29

Its like a 50/50 chance they'll scatter in JQ. Sometimes they'll scatter if distracted by another enemy player besides the RoJ monk

BrettM · Jul 07, 2009, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheodenKing

What they did was make the skill operate as elemental aoe, consistent with most ele skills. (ROJ does fire damage and causes burning each second of it's duration).

RoJ main damage is armor-ignoring holy damage, not fire damage. Burning condition =/= fire damage. So there is no elemental damage involved at all.

Snograt · Jul 07, 2009, 12:48 PM // 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by silavor

The only NPC that doesn't run from RoJ is Master Togo, which makes Vizunah Square even more retarded.

Try Tahnnakai Temple, HM - Togo AND Mhenlo both seem to think that RoJ is some sort of holy shower.

*Darcy* · Jul 07, 2009, 03:24 PM // 15:24

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ray_of_Judgment

Ray of Judgment

Concise description
Elite Spell. Deals 5...37...45 holy damage and inflicts burning(1...3...3 seconds) every second (5 seconds). Hits foes adjacent to target foes initial location.

Notes

Burning is refreshed every pulse that Ray of Judgment is active. Meaning that, with rank 12 smiting prayers, burning will total out to 7 seconds should the target stay in the spell for its full duration.

Hero AI will now recognize this spell as an AoE spell, however NPCs do not.

Jetdoc · Jul 07, 2009, 03:29 PM // 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcy

Hero AI will now recognize this spell as an AoE spell, however NPCs do not.

Is this true or just an outdated wiki?

Earth · Jul 08, 2009, 10:05 AM // 10:05

This thread isn't about how JQ isn't "major PvP", so keep it out of here. This isn't Riverside.

Jul 07, 2009, 02:49 AM // 02:49	#1
drunk n angry Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in a quiet little town that i love. Guild: Ancient Dragoons [AGED] Profession: W/	the new scatter from RoJ hi all this is my first thread here but i got a question and i hope i put it in the right place. Anet "fixed" RoJ so that hero AI and monster AI is supposed to now scatter from the effects of this skill. I just recently got into doing JQ (Jade Quarry) and i noticed that the shrine npc's dont scatter from these effects. which leads me to my question> Why would they "fix" a skill in pve and not major pvp such as JQ? if they are going to fix anything it should be an overall fix imo. if anyone knows why they didnt fix the npc's please pass that along, and if anyone knows how to get this to anet plz do so cuz it is very irritating when you get a group of mostly monks with roj and there is no stopping that crud.

Jul 07, 2009, 03:24 PM // 15:24	#13
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ray_of_Judgment Ray of Judgment Concise description Elite Spell. Deals 5...37...45 holy damage and inflicts burning(1...3...3 seconds) every second (5 seconds). Hits foes adjacent to target foes initial location. Notes Burning is refreshed every pulse that Ray of Judgment is active. Meaning that, with rank 12 smiting prayers, burning will total out to 7 seconds should the target stay in the spell for its full duration. Hero AI will now recognize this spell as an AoE spell, however NPCs do not. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Jul 07, 2009, 03:15 AM // 03:15	#2
Dont Nerf The Perma Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2009 Profession: A/D	I think NPCs don't scatter because they are supposed to stay and guard the shrine. I've seen eles cast AoE on shrines and they don't seem to scatter from that.

Jul 07, 2009, 04:18 AM // 04:18	#3
IronSheik Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wolfenstein: Goldrush Guild: Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom] Profession: N/	The JQ NPCs actually do scatter...about 50% of the time, but they do.

Jul 07, 2009, 04:18 AM // 04:18	#4
TheodenKing Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: DoA Guild: Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk) Profession: N/Me	What they did was make the skill operate as elemental aoe, consistent with most ele skills. (ROJ does fire damage and causes burning each second of it's duration). Shrine NPCs don't scatter from any aoe spells. They are paid to give up their lives to stop punks from capturing their shrines, except of course, for shrine monks, who are easily distracted by friendly minions in need of bandages. In that case, they will abandon their posts and pursue in hopes of saving the minions from their ailments.

Jul 07, 2009, 04:28 AM // 04:28	#5
Shayne Hawke Departed from Tyria Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Clan Dethryche [dth] Profession: R/	Don't know what game you play, but the NPCs in my Guild Wars run after being hit by RoJ.

Jul 07, 2009, 04:51 AM // 04:51	#6
silavor Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Guild: Keepers Of Twilight	The only NPC that doesn't run from RoJ is Master Togo, which makes Vizunah Square even more retarded.

Jul 07, 2009, 08:44 AM // 08:44	#7
drunk n angry Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in a quiet little town that i love. Guild: Ancient Dragoons [AGED] Profession: W/	and ty guys for the answers on this i do get it... but really why not change that as well. if they are not liking the way that RoJ is being OVERUSED and seeing how it is over powered why would they not make the change in pvp as well with the shrines.... just dont get it.

Jul 07, 2009, 08:52 AM // 08:52	#8
miskav Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: None Profession: Mo/	They do scatter.

Jul 07, 2009, 11:02 AM // 11:02	#9
silavor Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Guild: Keepers Of Twilight	Back on topic, yes, aNet should fix the scatter for RoJ of all AI, not just HM PvE AI.

Jul 07, 2009, 11:29 AM // 11:29	#10
Dont Nerf The Perma Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2009 Profession: A/D	Its like a 50/50 chance they'll scatter in JQ. Sometimes they'll scatter if distracted by another enemy player besides the RoJ monk

Jul 08, 2009, 10:05 AM // 10:05	#15
Earth Always Outnumbered Join Date: Jul 2006	This thread isn't about how JQ isn't "major PvP", so keep it out of here. This isn't Riverside.